Big
Chainrings As my experience
with bents grows and my fitness level improves, I find I like to ride faster.
This increase in speed is fairly easy to manage just so long as you have
at least a 24" drive wheel which allows you to get about 105 gear inches
with an inexpensive 48/38/28 triple and a cassette with an 11 tooth small gear.
Right now, I'm experimenting with smaller drive wheels in the 20"/451/16"
range, and basic 48's, and even 50 to 53T road rings are very easy to spin out
on, while riding on even the slightest down slopes. The solution is BIG
rings, like 60 tooth and beyond. Problem with big rings though, are as follows:
- big rings usually stop at 60 teeth in most bike shop catalogues, and they
are roughly $1 per tooth (for average price "guestimation"), if not
more
- you need to have a more expensive crank set that has removable rings
unless you want to drill some rivets and do a little metal trimming
- "commercial"
rings of bigger tooth counts can be bought, but they get increasingly expensive
the larger you go, and the machinists can be hard to locate that can/will do it
- lastly,
if you want to have double or triple rings so you can have usable gears for hills
as well as a satisfactory top gear, you can start running into chain management
issues (I.E., you end up with more chain in the small cog combinations than the
derailleur can take up)
54 Tooth So,
keeping all this in mind, I decided to see if I could save some money and do it
myself. There are a number of ways to make a bigger ring, but a fairly easy
one is to use a big farm equipment sprocket with suitable tooth count as a pattern.
I went to TSC and bought a 54T sprocket with ½" pitch for about
$18, and proceeded to try to use it as a pattern. I made an alignment collar
to center the sprocket and my piece of $5 scrap .090" 7075 and after that,
it's just a matter of using a 5/16" bit and using the steel sprocket as a
drill bushing. The holes were drilled out fine, but when I cut off the excess,
I cut off too much metal and the teeth were far too short. At least I know
what I did wrong and I still have the sprocket for more chainrings. In the
meantime, I had a chance to grab an available 60T Vuelta ring, so I used that
instead.
I might still finish it up and see if the teeth still might work for me. |
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| | | 70
Tooth For attempt number two,
I found two resources for big ring patterns. The IHPVA has a bunch of big
sprocket patterns, plus instructions for use, that can be printed out and
pasted to the AL plate, but I found that some of them had center-dots in the tooth
pattern that were difficult to see. Not a big deal, but something that needed
to be paid attention to. The other resource I found was Giles Puckett's
(likely the same guy who wrote the IHPVA page) sprocket
calculator. If Moz's
site is down, here's a local
copy of it. Anyway, it's an awesome little application and worked perfectly
for printing out 4 pieces of paper to tape together and use for a pattern. I
got a scrap piece of .125" 7075 this time, followed the instructions, and
glued the paper on. Center punched the holes, drilled them out with a ¼"
bit first, then used the 5/16" on the tooth holes, and a 1½"
hole saw and ½" bit for some lightening holes. Next, I'll cut
off the excess, take out the center section, start filing the teeth and I'm not
sure if I'm looking forward to thinning out the teeth. Even a .090"
piece needs to have the teeth thinned so I have an extra .032" to take off
all the way round. At the very least though, the sprocket should be stronger
than normal. A little over an hour got me to this point. | |
| | | | 16 Dec
2006 I managed to get a little more time on
the 70T chainring. I got the centre cut out, most of the holes de-burred,
and some of the teeth filed. I have been very inefficient in my procedure
for making this chainring so far. Lots of going back and forth, wasted time
and poor techniques. It's my first one though, so just so long as I get
it finished and its useable, I'm happy. While filing the teeth is a little
tedious, once you figure out a technique that works for you, it's actually fairly
fast. The slow thing will be filing the edge of the chainring thinner all
the way around so the chain sits deep enough in the teeth. It's mounted
to a 130mm BCD crank that is 175mm, and will be cut down to 140mm. Not exactly
sure what I'm going to use this baby on, but I think it'll be some flavour of
ice racing trike for the moment. I haven't
decided whether I'll just knock down every 5th tooth to act as shift gates for
a smaller chainring, or whether I'll take every second tooth off and have the
sprocket become a 1" pitch 35T. If I go with half teeth, I'll have
to make sure chain alignment is spot on so it doesn't try to derail itself all
the time. About 1 hour 45 minutes total time so far. | |
| | | | 15 Jan 2007 The
big ring was finally finished almost 3 weeks ago, but I have just been busy and
didn't update it. Another hour of tooth filing, deburring and painting got the
final result to the right. An old 52T chainring is sitting on top of it
to compare sizes. I shortened every 5th tooth on the big ring to act as
shift gates as I'll likely run a 70/5?/36 triple and want to make sure it downshifts
OK. I might need to modify the derailleur cage to work with a 34T drop however.
While that was hanging up drying, I started on some 62T and 40T oval rings
and my technique and processes were MUCH improved over my first attempt at the
70T ring. Total time to make the ring was just under 3 hours. Now
I need to build something to put it on :) | |
| Oval
Rings I came to
the realization/decision that if I am going to go to the effort of making my own
custom rings, there's no point making round rings when I believe that ovals are
more efficient. That being the case, I'm going to concentrate on finding
out what is the optimum percentage of ovality and what is the optimum amount of
offset. Actually, I guess a more accurate term for them is "elliptical"
because that infers a symmetrical shape. An "oval" is not
necessarily symmetrical in both axis, but I like the word because it's easier
to type :) |
| 62/40 Oval 21
Jan 2007 While finishing up the 70T, I was
messing around with the sprocket calculator and realized it also makes oval rings.
So, after doing some 'net research and seeing what the "pros"
use for how out of round they make their rings, it seems they do the big rings
about 10% and smaller rings about 20%. The low rings are used when more
torque is needed (i.e. hills) and generally get spun at low rpms, so the higher
oval percentage makes it a little easier to get past the "flat" spot
in the pedal stroke. For a little explanation, the whole idea behind the
oval cranks (in a nutshell) is that, primarily, they help you get through the
"flat spot" in your pedal stroke and secondly, they give you a little
more "oomph" when you are in the pedal position where you can put the
most power down. They do this by aligning the larger dimension with the
point you are about 90º from full leg extension/leg contraction, and by aligning
the smaller dimension with the point your one leg is fully extended and the other
is fully contracted. So, on a bent, half way through the stroke when your
feet are perpendicular to the chain line, the tallest part of the oval will be
pulling on the chain and that gives you a temporary higher gear. When your
feet are lined up with the chain line, the smallest part of the oval will be pulling
on the chain and that gives you a temporary lower gear. The premise is,
that while pedaling proper circles, you are limited in your top gear by how big
of a gear you can push in your pedaling"flat spot". So, by reducing
the gear size when you are at your lowest torque, it helps you get through it
easier and presents you with a larger gear than you could normally push when you
can produce your most torque. Got it? :) If not, they just look cool
:) So, I decided to step it up a little and
went to a 62T/15% ring and a 40T/25% ring. The nice thing about the sprocket
calculator is that it automagically aligns the oval rings for you, but you can
go in and tweak the alignment yourself if you want. Also, because the 20%
oval on the 40T ring makes it a smaller diameter than usual, I had to use a 110BCD
pattern, so I'll have to make another adapter to mount it to the 130mm BCD crank
in the picture. I can see how there will be a lot of permutations and combinations
by combining different tooth counts with different oval percentages. Anyway,
after doing the 70T ring, I found that I was wasting a lot of time and not being
very efficient at it. With the one under my belt, these ones went a lot
faster because I knew what to do in which order. So, in the top picture,
I printed out the pattern, glued it on, drilled out the tooth holes, cut off the
excess and started to pre-drill some mounting holes, all in only an hour. Much
better than before :) Oh yeah, and that ketchup-looking stuff on the one
40T ring is not ketchup, it's my blood. After trimming off the excess, the
teeth are very sharp and will latch on to inattentive fingers in a heartbeat. The
next time I got at them, I got the center holes drilled out on 3 of the rings,
and the excess material removed from the 62T ring. That only took another
hour. The 40T rings are small enough that I don't think I'll need to remove
any material - although in hindsight, I should have made a 42 or 44T instead.
Next time . . . :) So, in the mean time, they are sitting as is while
I finish up a couple quick trike projects in time for the ice races in Feb in
Brantford.
After the frame is done, I'll finish the rings, then, if there's time, I'll
send the frame out for powder coating while I finish file and paint the chainrings
and adapter plate. I figure another hour to finish the chainrings and the
adapter. The crank pictured is shortened
now to 140mm. | |
| | | | 07 Feb 2007 In
the rush to get the chainrings done for the Brantford
ice races I only managed to get the 62T painted. Both rings mounted
up great to the old cranks I shortened
to 140mm. The rings worked great and shifted so smooth, I think it shifts
even better than a commercial round set. I was really amazed. People
commented that they felt a little different when they first rode it, but after
only a couple minutes, I'd ask them about how they felt, and they really couldn't
say anything bad about them. Someone posted on the net that the derailleur
flopped around a lot with oval chainrings. ?? The RD didn't move at
all on either ring so a typical example of someone who knows nothing, shooting
down something they've never tried. I still want to try a pair on my Speed
if the FD post is tall enough. My daughter used the trike at the ice races
and she had no problem with the chainrings aside from a crappy FD shift lever
that was misbehaving. The only two downsides are: - Due to the
short chain line on the FWD delta, the chain would hit the big ring when you were
using the 40T ring and 6th gear. Mounting the rings to a RWD bent will solve
that problem completely, and
- I think I cut too much meat out of the chainring
and it is a little more flimsy than I would like. It seems like it would
be too easy to bend if you hit something or were a grinder. I will use fewer
lightening holes on the next one if I use .090" 7075 on it. The 70T
seems much stiffer but I used a different hole pattern and it was also .125"
thick. I don't think it will pose a serious problem though.
I'm
going to shorten another set of 48/38/28 cranks to 140 and replace the 62/40,
double and use the big ovals on a different project. Their test was a success. |
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| 62/54/38
10% Ovals 26 Aug 2007 I
decided to make a new set of ovals for the Speed. I made some 62/54/38 10%
ovals out of .090" 7075 AL. I also made them with markings for 7 sets
of mounting holes so I could adjust the offset in about 10º increments. I
decided to go with 10% ovality because 20% and more is too much of a speed change
and was getting hard on the knees. 15% might also have been fine, but I
think I'll opt for a little moderation this time and work on the amount the rings
are retarded in relation to the cranks rather than going for more ovality. I
marked out 35 holes for mounting the rings to the crank spider, but only drilled
out 3 sets right now that equate to about 40, 30 and 20º of offset. I'll
set it at 30º initially which equates to about 25º on the trike and
see how that works. I'll get around to painting them later. | |
| 59/48/32
10% @ 5º 1 May 2008 The
initial set of 53/39 rings that I put on the Raptor 44 were an interim measure
until I could get bigger rings made. I did the calculations and we decided
that a 59/48/32 with an 11/32 cassette would meet the gear requirements while
still providing the option of going to an 11/34 should the need arise. Based
on my experience with the ovals on the Speed, I was happy with 10% ovality as
the optimum compromise, and set them at ~5º offset. I made them out
of .090 7075 and total fabrication for them was about 4 hours total. The
biggest job was laying out and drilling all the lightening holes :). The
rider is very happy with them and I think 10% and 5º will be my standard
from now on, barring some extreme bent design that means I need to modify the
offset slightly. | |
| 62/48/34
10% @ 5º HT 4 July 2008 I
had a stock Biopace double on the Raptor but I was running out of top end gears.
I wanted something in the low 60's for top gear, a mid ring that was in
between the 52/39 I had been using, and a granny ring that would get me into the
low 20 inch range for some steep hills I'll be riding. I also decided that
I couldn't see why I needed all the teeth on the two biggest rings. On a
minor level, they might look a little cooler with 1" pitch, a little more
importantly they might shift a little better (not that they weren't shifting fine
before), but the most important thing was that I would only have to file HALF
as many teeth :) Woohoo! I'm not worried about the chain slipping
because you can see that there is at least 50% chain wrap, if not more. So,
I used some .090" 7075 again, took the 62/40 ovals off the 140mm cranks I'd
shortened back in Jan 07 and put the 2 new rings on them. I wanted to have
the new rings ready for the Waterford MI races that were on June 21 - 22, and
I succeeded in that. The granny ring will have all its teeth because that
ring will take the highest loading of the three due to hill use and any shifting
will be down onto it so reduced tooth counts won't help the shifting there. I
still have to finish up the granny but seeing as how the FD is already maxxed
out in capacity, I'll be chopping the bottom of the cage and adding an inch or
so to each side so the chain will clear it when I'm using the granny. I
have about 200km on the two half-toothed rings now, not to mention the racing
for two days, and they worked most excellently :) I'll paint 'em flat black,
mount the third, and then stick a fork in 'em. Oh yeah, the "HT"
= "half-tooth". | |
| 62/59/34
12% @ 5º HT 13 Feb 09 These
rings are going on my new race trike, the Black
Max. All three rings are only half tooth because half the teeth worked
fine on my Raptor rings, and they were much easier to make when I only had to
form half the teeth. These are made out of .090" 7075 as well. I
was planning on knocking a bunch of lightening holes in them, but as I'm aiming
at the race scene here, and other guys are going and filling IN their rings, I
thought I'd stay ahead of the game for once and leave them solid. I can
always go back and put the holes in later. I made them for a MTB 4 bolt
crank because the Truvativ
cranks were cheap and had fat arms. They are pretty tall rings though
so I might have to put in a few small screws and spacers between the rings in
case the chain trys to flex them and drop in the middle of the big rings during
shifting. I made them 12% oval because I think my knees are sufficiently
strong enough now that I can take a little more aggressive oval. The line
of ¼" holes in the rings is to show me where the long axis is so I
can get them mounted properly in realtion to the chain angle and the cranks. |  | | | |
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